Adonis and Bathsheba

[00:00:00] Speaker A: It is now disclaimer time. [00:00:02] Speaker B: We are here to share Prince's works with the utmost authenticity, clarity and precision. This means there may be situations where the material being discussed may be sensitive or offensive to some. However, we have chosen to discuss his work as it was initially produced. We will not alter any of his original work to suit anyone's comfort, including in our own. This podcast is to celebrate Prince and his works. [00:00:29] Speaker C: Thank you for your support and understanding. Now, on to the show. [00:00:36] Speaker D: Hello. Welcome to Alphabet Suite podcast for the Prince songbook. There are hundreds of songs to choose from. You have chosen. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Welcome back to another episode of Alphabet Suite podcast. I am your host, Timothy T. Wow. [00:00:55] Speaker E: You didn't even give producer Aaron time to get back to his studio. You just took off. [00:01:02] Speaker A: I'm on it. [00:01:04] Speaker E: I see that. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:05] Speaker E: Let's go. You're running fast. I felt like at an auction or something. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Who? [00:01:15] Speaker E: Give me $20? I'm for sale. So, anyway, I am your co host. I don't want to say Patty P. Because I don't want to be called that. [00:01:30] Speaker C: Producer. [00:01:31] Speaker E: Aaron, rock on. What are we talking about today, Mr. Auctioneer? Timothy till. The man in the gray sweatshirt. Rock on. All right. [00:01:51] Speaker A: We are talking about Adonis and Bathsheba. [00:01:57] Speaker E: So nice couple. Went out to dinner with them last night. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Did you? Yeah, I seen you guys. [00:02:04] Speaker E: Did you? [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I came with Daryl. [00:02:06] Speaker E: Daryl. So tell me a little bit about this song. [00:02:12] Speaker A: Well. [00:02:18] Speaker E: Would you like to read my notes? [00:02:20] Speaker A: Oh, sure. I like that. All right. So it was recorded? [00:02:25] Speaker E: It was recorded. Yeah, you got that right. [00:02:30] Speaker A: July of 66. [00:02:34] Speaker E: No, it does not say July of 66. [00:02:38] Speaker A: 56. [00:02:39] Speaker E: No. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Dude, I can't see. 86, 80. Okay. Worthless glasses. I can't. Thank you. [00:02:49] Speaker C: How's that? [00:02:50] Speaker A: All right. [00:02:50] Speaker E: That help? [00:02:51] Speaker A: So they did it at Galpin Boulevard home studio. Is that what it says? Galepin? Yeah. [00:03:02] Speaker E: Galpin. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Okay. Galpin. Gelpin. All right. Two days after the ball. [00:03:10] Speaker E: What ball did you go to? [00:03:12] Speaker A: The crystal ball. What are they talking about? [00:03:16] Speaker E: That's the name of the song. The ball. [00:03:18] Speaker A: The ball. [00:03:18] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:03:19] Speaker A: No name. It's Adonis. [00:03:20] Speaker E: And that's the song two days after he recorded Adonis. After that. Two days after they recorded that song. [00:03:27] Speaker A: No. Okay. Anyway, how about you take over? [00:03:32] Speaker E: So this was another dream factory deal, right? Was it supposed to be on the dream factory? I think so. Yeah. It was supposed to be on the dream factory, but it never made it one because the dream factory never came out. [00:03:50] Speaker A: And then they abandoned the song, and then why? [00:03:54] Speaker E: Everything gets abandoned with big goofballs. He doesn't follow through for as much as he puts out. He doesn't follow through with much. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:04:04] Speaker E: You know what I mean? [00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I think he was like, what is it, add or ADHD? [00:04:09] Speaker E: He was something because he made music way faster than what anyone else. You know what mean? [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yep. [00:04:20] Speaker E: Which is part of the problem he had with Warner Brothers, because he kept wanting to release music and they were like, no, you're flooding the market. Ain't no one going to want to hear your stuff if you just keep putting it out and putting it out. And he's like, no, just put it out. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Right. I'm with him. [00:04:34] Speaker E: Right. I am, too. But check this out. So when he finally got away from Warner Brothers and started doing his own thing, he was not putting out music that fast. He slowed down, you know what I mean? We were still getting about one album a put. Everyone's like, oh, well, I ain't going to say, but people are saying, oh, well, he was putting it out quickly when he had his MPG online music club. No, he wasn't. You get like two or three songs a month, you average that out. It's still about one album a year. So even when he had control and could do what he wanted to do, we were not getting music any faster or any more than what we were getting when he was with Warner Brothers. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Right. [00:05:21] Speaker E: So you whine because you wanted to do all this stuff, then when you had the chance to do it, you didn't do it. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:30] Speaker E: What the heck, man? [00:05:31] Speaker A: Stop being negative. What's wrong with you? [00:05:35] Speaker E: Eliminate the negative. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Exactly. Prince can do what he want to do. [00:05:40] Speaker E: I'm just saying. [00:05:41] Speaker A: I'm saying he could have done what. [00:05:43] Speaker E: He wanted to do, but he didn't. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it doesn't make sense. You're going to bitch and complain because you want to put it out more. Yeah. [00:05:50] Speaker E: So why did you not put it out? Anyway. [00:05:57] Speaker A: I am with you. [00:05:59] Speaker E: So funny thing about this song. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Is it like, funny laugh? [00:06:06] Speaker E: Well, no. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:06:08] Speaker E: So when I first heard it on a bootleg, because that was how we heard it was on a bootleg first. I did not like this song at all. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Really? [00:06:18] Speaker E: Yeah. However, with the bootlegs, I didn't listen to a lot anyway, unless I really liked the song just because most of the quality was poor. [00:06:27] Speaker A: Right. [00:06:28] Speaker E: So I really had to like a song to listen to poor quality. And this one did not make the cut. So I set it aside and just didn't listen to it when it came out on the sign of the Times super deluxe edition and I listened to it. I don't know if it's because it had been years since I heard it or because it was good quality. I don't know, but I started liking it. Figure that one out. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Maybe you just needed the good quality. [00:07:03] Speaker E: Maybe a different feeling, different place in life. Maybe because, like I said, I'm in my fifty s now and it was a long time ago when I heard it the first time and I was like, yeah, but it has a very, to me anyway, it has a very similar feel to a door. You can feel the same vibe and chemistry that he was doing when he had a door to me anyway. [00:07:33] Speaker A: And this was done around the same time. Yeah. So there you go. [00:07:39] Speaker E: And that's one thing that I find very intriguing about Prince's music. And I guess it's probably about anyone's music. You can tell where a song was written in their career just by the sounds of it, because when they're making music at that time, all their music has a certain sound to it. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Right? [00:08:00] Speaker E: So if you hear a prince song and you don't know when it came out, if you know enough about his sounds through the years, you can say, man, that sounds like it came out around this time frame. Does that make sense? [00:08:14] Speaker A: Yeah, nine times out of ten, you're. [00:08:15] Speaker E: Right, if you know his time frames. And yeah, when you listen to this, you're like, yeah, that sounds like a door which came out in 87. So it was probably done around the 86 to 88 era. [00:08:32] Speaker A: Right. [00:08:33] Speaker E: But yeah, when I was researching, there's supposed to be an instrumental mix to this song, so I can't find it in anything that I have. [00:08:50] Speaker A: Oh, that's poopy. [00:08:51] Speaker E: Yeah. And you would have thought, at least I would, if there was an instrumental mix to the song, why did they not release it with the super deluxe edition of the Times? Because that would have been the time, and in my opinion, that would have been the time to release it. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Unless there's more. [00:09:08] Speaker E: Well, I mean, there's always so much more because he's just forever writing and recording and producing. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Maybe that's what he was doing during that time when he got away from Warner Brothers. He was just writing so much and recording it and he's like, no, I don't want that. Let's do another. And this is why we didn't get what he wanted to do is put out more music. And nothing was ever satisfying him to where he felt this is good enough for me to put out. [00:09:43] Speaker E: But he always shouldn't say, he always, I watched multiple interviews where he would say, I don't give Warner brothers the best stuff all the time, which is true, because when you listen to some of his stuff that he never released, there are songs out there that are way better than stuff he's put on albums. You know what I mean? [00:10:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:10:08] Speaker E: I mean, think about it. If he wasn't at that time in the 80s, let's say, if he wasn't doing b sides, you wouldn't have got 17 days, you wouldn't have got erotic city, you wouldn't have got another lonely Christmas. [00:10:26] Speaker A: All great songs, man. [00:10:28] Speaker E: You know what I mean? Horny toad. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:34] Speaker E: How come you don't call me anymore? You go back and look at his b sides. These are songs that he didn't give to Warner Brothers initially to put on an album. Had he not decided to put these on as a b side, these are great songs that we would not have. I. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Most of them, I think, could have been released. Oh, yeah, I know. [00:11:00] Speaker E: Easily. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Maybe not horny Toad, but mother lonely Christmas, maybe. Yeah. [00:11:09] Speaker E: I mean, they were great songs. And you just look at it. So, you know, he's not always given Warner Brothers the best songs. He's putting together an album that he wants put together in a way, he wants to put together, because you go through the history of what he does, and there's always multiple configurations to the album. Right. This is the way the album was in March, and by April he changed the configuration, and then by May, it was another configuration. When he finally released it in July, it was another configuration. [00:11:51] Speaker A: Correct. [00:11:53] Speaker E: Sometimes he just changes the order in which the songs are done. Sometimes he'll change the songs themselves. Yeah, but there's supposed to be an instrumental version. I can't find it now. [00:12:10] Speaker A: You think that would be an easy thing to find because it's instrumental. It's just music, right? [00:12:15] Speaker E: At least we're assuming. Yeah, but anyway, other than that, there's not a lot of information that I have on this. He was going to do a crystal ball two box set, and it was supposed to be on that, but crystal ball two, as so many other projects, got abandoned. [00:12:45] Speaker A: Oh, it's in the vault. [00:12:49] Speaker E: Yeah. What do you do? [00:12:58] Speaker A: I like the song. [00:12:59] Speaker E: Did you? [00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just weird because I'm kind of on a door. [00:13:06] Speaker E: Really? [00:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know why, but it does feel like a door. [00:13:16] Speaker E: Overall, what do you think of Prince's slow songs? Not his love songs, but his slow songs. Are you a fan of them? Because when you think of his slow songs, I know your favorite song by him is free, but then you're not really into a door, but when you think about it. What about, like, scandalous or insatiable? I'm not talking to his love songs, just his slow, melodic groove songs. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Well, I put here because the song said I love the slowness. Always love him singing this way. [00:14:02] Speaker E: Oh, and it's like falsetto, his kind of falsetto voice. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Scandalous is okay. [00:14:11] Speaker E: Yeah. Because he had a different way of writing slow music. It was really different. [00:14:28] Speaker A: I don't know. Scandalous was done and sang differently than, say, a different slow version than, like, say, 17 days or another lonely Christmas. I don't know. I guess it just all depends on. [00:14:53] Speaker E: Because there are. Sometimes I hear some of his slower songs and I'm like, that's going to take me a little bit to process and get into. Scandalous was one of those songs. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Yeah, there was a whole lot with that. What, the scandalous sex week? [00:15:10] Speaker E: Yeah, that's a whole different conversation for that. [00:15:20] Speaker A: You get what I'm saying, though? Different? [00:15:22] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. I get 100%. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Okay. And then you get like, where do you put. I guess I wish you heaven would be in with, like, 17 days way. [00:15:31] Speaker E: Yeah. Because it's not really slow, but it's not like a rock song either. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Right. Just different levels of his. [00:15:42] Speaker E: Yeah. He was definitely unique in his approach to music. [00:15:47] Speaker A: Yes. He was the best all the way up here. [00:15:50] Speaker E: You know what's unique? What's unique? This awful segue to. You were waiting for something, weren't you? You're like, they're just not giving me anything. [00:16:00] Speaker C: I need to find my end. [00:16:03] Speaker E: So what are we going to do? Producer Aaron? [00:16:07] Speaker C: Well, we're going to eat a snack. [00:16:08] Speaker E: We're going to eat a snack because. [00:16:10] Speaker C: This segment is partnered. Well, we're partnered with Castos, so we're making this segment about castos. All right, what's up, party people? 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[00:18:06] Speaker E: All natural gummy worms? [00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:08] Speaker E: What do you mean, all natural? [00:18:10] Speaker F: Well, there's no crap in it and there's less sugar. [00:18:15] Speaker E: Well, let's see it. Bring it in. Look at it. [00:18:22] Speaker A: Timmy T, you came in here talking about strawberries and all natural strawberries and. [00:18:27] Speaker E: Mangoes and destroyed our faces. What do we got? All I see on the back is feed your freak. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Rotten. [00:18:39] Speaker E: Rotten. [00:18:40] Speaker A: What? Sour. [00:18:42] Speaker E: Oh, boy. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Gummy worms. [00:18:45] Speaker E: Rotten, sour gummy worms. All right, here we go. [00:18:49] Speaker F: They might be a little stiff. I've had them for a while. [00:18:55] Speaker E: We're going to get some stiff worms. [00:19:00] Speaker F: You can just rivet from the top. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Okay. There you go. You want me to rip it all the way? [00:19:06] Speaker F: Do whatever you want. [00:19:11] Speaker A: I hate gummy stuff. [00:19:14] Speaker E: Do you? Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker A: I'm not a fan. [00:19:18] Speaker E: What did you do? You got it to where? I can't even open the bag now. How am I going to. When all else fails, use your teeth. All right. [00:19:45] Speaker A: That was hilarious. [00:19:55] Speaker E: These aren't even Gummy anymore. They're hard. [00:19:59] Speaker F: I'm sure he'll soften his mouth. [00:20:07] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Those aren't even near as bad as that fruit. [00:20:13] Speaker F: Oh, yeah, they're stiff. They're not usually this stiff. [00:20:17] Speaker E: I promise you they soften in your mouth. Staring at it ain't going to make it any better. [00:20:26] Speaker A: I just don't like goomy stuff. [00:20:31] Speaker E: It's not bad. That is definitely not like the trolleys, them fruit things. What were they called? [00:20:46] Speaker F: Pineapple sour. These are a lot better when they're fresh. [00:20:54] Speaker E: That's okay. [00:20:55] Speaker F: If you like gummy worms. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Gummy worms are nasty. Gummy bears, gummy. [00:21:02] Speaker E: Oh, I love gummy bears. All right. [00:21:10] Speaker A: It's fruity. [00:21:12] Speaker E: Yeah, but I am not going to. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Right. [00:21:18] Speaker E: Yeah, that's not bad. [00:21:20] Speaker A: I just don't think I like the texture of the gummy bears. I just don't like that. [00:21:27] Speaker E: See, I love gummy bears. [00:21:28] Speaker A: You would. [00:21:30] Speaker E: It's because they're tasty. They are. But gummy worms, I mean, they're all any gummy like that I'm okay with. These are like all natural, less sugar, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that is actually not bad. The sour was not bad. [00:21:45] Speaker A: Thank God. That other thing was rotten. [00:21:48] Speaker E: Check it out. Yeah, check it out. Rotten gummy worms. All right, well, I think that's about all we got to say about Adonis and Bathsheba. Yes. You got anything else you want to add? [00:22:08] Speaker A: No, this is an OD name. [00:22:11] Speaker E: Donnas and Bathsheba. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:14] Speaker E: I don't know why know. I've heard of Bathsheba in the know and Adonis is like, he's a God, but not in the Bible. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:28] Speaker E: I don't know why he picked those names, but good song. [00:22:33] Speaker A: I enjoyed it. [00:22:34] Speaker E: Nice, slow. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Eric Leeds have anything to do with this? Who? Eric Leeds. I don't know. [00:22:45] Speaker E: Did he? [00:22:46] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:22:47] Speaker E: Do you see him on there? I'm asking, do you see his name? [00:22:52] Speaker A: Look at Eric. [00:22:54] Speaker E: What? [00:22:55] Speaker A: Recording personnel. [00:22:59] Speaker E: Eric Leeds and Atlanta bliss. So, yeah, anytime there's know, he's got his go to people. And those go to people were different depending on the era in which the song was recorded. Eric Leeds was around most of the time, but later on he got, like, Adrian Crutchfield and people like. [00:23:29] Speaker A: So. No, I don't want to say that. What, at all? [00:23:34] Speaker E: You're going to say something negative, weren't you? [00:23:36] Speaker A: Yes, I was. [00:23:37] Speaker E: Go to a positive place. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, because Eric Lee's is awesome. You can't get. [00:23:42] Speaker E: See, he is. I'm not saying he's not, but I like. [00:23:51] Speaker A: In fact, like that noise. [00:23:53] Speaker E: I do not like that noise. It's very annoying. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Good. That's what I'm doing. You wouldn't let me freak with my pen. So. There you go. Okay. [00:24:00] Speaker C: Sounds like somebody needs to eat some mango. [00:24:02] Speaker A: No, I don't. [00:24:03] Speaker E: We'll force feed it to them. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Gross. [00:24:09] Speaker E: All right, well, I guess that's going to be it for this episode, people, if you want to reach out to us, we'd love to hear from you. [00:24:16] Speaker A: We would? [00:24:17] Speaker E: Yeah, we would. We'd really like to have some interaction going here. [00:24:21] Speaker A: I'd like for you all to get on YouTube and go to Alphabet Suite podcast and Alphabet suite playlist, our sister channel, and, like, subscribe, comment, comment. It's annoying having only. I hate seeing the like number. [00:24:42] Speaker E: Nobody likes us. I think they don't look at it silly. [00:24:47] Speaker A: I'm sorry not to because I'm excited. [00:24:52] Speaker E: Just remember, we're here for fun and entertainment and to educate people with what little bit of knowledge we have about Prince. [00:24:58] Speaker C: And if you like that little bit of knowledge about Prince, you can find a lot more of [email protected]. Alphabetsuitepodcast. [00:25:06] Speaker E: You can, and we're going to try to add more and more as we go there, too. Where else can they reach us? I think we have a Gmail. Do we have a Gmail? [00:25:20] Speaker A: [email protected]. [00:25:24] Speaker E: Do we have a Twitter? [00:25:25] Speaker A: No. [00:25:28] Speaker E: Do we have an X. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Alphabet sweet. Podcast on the X, only X. So Twitter. [00:25:40] Speaker C: And if you're listening on the podcast platforms, especially Apple podcasts, and I believe Spotify, maybe Amazon, I don't know. [00:25:50] Speaker E: Drop a review. Let us know what you think going. [00:25:52] Speaker A: On with our producer. [00:25:53] Speaker E: What's wrong with our producer? There's a lot wrong with. [00:26:00] Speaker A: All right, producer. Did he already do the Patreon or does he want to go into his porn voice? [00:26:07] Speaker E: Yeah, he did. His Patreon was the first thing he did. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Dude, since I said the porn voice, you haven't done it? [00:26:11] Speaker E: Done what? [00:26:12] Speaker A: Him. [00:26:13] Speaker E: You want him to do porn? [00:26:15] Speaker A: The voice where I said it sounds like, know, I mean, if someone wants. [00:26:19] Speaker C: To hire me to do anything. [00:26:21] Speaker A: See, there we go. [00:26:24] Speaker E: It's the Barry White voice. [00:26:27] Speaker C: That's just me talking normal, really close. [00:26:29] Speaker E: To the microphone, like Barry White. [00:26:32] Speaker A: All right, let's finish this. [00:26:33] Speaker E: All right, so I think we're done with Adonis and Bathsheba. So if you like it, check it out on the super deluxe edition. It's good. Yeah. Till next time, people. Peace. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Peace. 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