Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to Alphabet Suite podcast for the Prince Songbook. There are hundreds of songs to choose from. You have chosen stranger than something.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: We're all a little strange.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Welcome back to another episode of.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: No, that's not what this is.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: Excuse me. Alphabet Sweet podcast.
I am Oops.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: I'm your oops.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm your host. I am Oops Timothy.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And I be the other Oops, Pat.
And I'm producer.
I got that song going through my head.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: I know, right?
[00:00:46] Speaker B: I'm going, oh, oh no.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: Well, oh no.
At least we know what something sounds like.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: Unlike.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: Unlike. Am I without you?
[00:00:59] Speaker B: No, you're not without me. I'm right here.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: I know.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: So this Aaron's right there.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: I know.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: We're all here for you.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: He's got bedhead.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: Even though our love is stranger than paradise.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: I know. It's just crazy, right?
[00:01:11] Speaker B: He's bedhead.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: He's got bedhead.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Can bald men like us get bedhead?
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Can we?
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
I was looking at him and it reminded me of Josh, your brother. Yeah.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Cuz he's, you know, gets bed head.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: He. He's bald, like in bedhead and just like that.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: And he doesn't do anything with his hair. He just goes.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Does he?
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: With the bed head and all.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Goes right to work and you know, it's good.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Must be the. The generation or something.
All right.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: My brother in law says he refuses to do his hair because there's no point. Who's he trying to impress?
Said I already got a wife, so.
Good thinking.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: I didn't realize that personal hygiene was just to impress, but. Okay.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And once you get with that person just goes down the drain.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know why I just don't brush my teeth anymore because I. I already got a wife.
I don't take baths anymore.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: It's been a year.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: It's been a year because I already got a wife.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Well, in some cases. Ex wives.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Exactly. All right, so what are we talking about today?
[00:02:29] Speaker A: Am I without you? Which is unreleased, unheard and un.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Everything on everything.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: So why are we even talking about it then?
[00:02:40] Speaker A: All right, so that's the episode for the day.
See, we could short that quick.
[00:02:46] Speaker B: We could.
So what do we know about this? Unheard, unreleased, unhit, unwondered or whatever.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Unwondered.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: One hit wonder. Unhit.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: I like that.
I don't know. I gotta.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: Well, we do know it was recorded in 88, so.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: Good time.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: It was a good time in 88. And it was included as six track on the mid January configuration of the album, Rave Unto the Joy. Fantastic.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: Which was abandoned when Prince began work on Batman. But then apparently he came back to it.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: Okay, so.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: So.
So Sack My Toe.
Anyway.
So what?
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Well, then he was gonna put it. He proposed to put it on Jill Jones second album. Second album with a bunch of other stuff.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: Which I'm glad he didn't.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Why?
Glad he didn't put it on or just glad that he didn't do another album?
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Really?
[00:03:54] Speaker A: All the above.
See, I know you'd like.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: I like Jill Jones's voice. I like that album.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: I know. I. I don't mind her voice, but when she just screams. Wait, there's no reason to be screaming. You're an angry singer. Go get help.
[00:04:13] Speaker B: Okay. Do you know how many singers scream.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: And I don't like that?
[00:04:20] Speaker B: I think a lot of Aaron's bands scream.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: I know.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: It's different.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: It is. It's different.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: It's a guttural growl.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: It's all.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Or what? Why is it different?
Because it's not just yelling. Yelling is bad for your vocal cords.
Well, what do they do? They vibrate their vocal thingy tube.
They vibrate their throat thingy tube. Yeah.
I can't really do it, so I can't. Their pharynx and then what? That's called pharynx.
I don't speak Latin. I can't tell you.
I don't know Latin. Not your larynx.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: I don't know.
So.
So what you're saying is we're done with this episode, Right?
The shortest episode in the history of. After we just sat here off camera. Talk, talking about how. Yeah, we. Our episodes are half hour long because we sit and yap about nothing.
Now we're saying we got nothing to yap about.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: This is true.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: What's up with that? How do we go from having to take three episodes to do 1999 to saying we can't even fill five minutes now with.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Well, I'm. I'm going to try.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: You're going to try?
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: You can talk about Earth, partner.
Is it that time already?
[00:05:48] Speaker A: That was quick, wasn't it?
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Well, if you ain't got nothing else to talk about.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: Well, give me just a minute.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: I think he's going to give it a shot.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to give it a shot.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: He's going to fill us full of.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: Rave unto the joy. Fantastic. Did he not release that?
[00:06:03] Speaker B: He did much later, but he just said screw it.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: And I'm not putting that track on there.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: My guess is by the time he actually released Rave, I mean, I'm thinking. And this could just be me. I'm thinking that the songs that were originally on the configuration back in 88, I bet none of them appeared on the actual rave.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: All right.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: So it'd be my guess. I'm gonna go look now and see.
See what? Okay.
Oh, yeah. These aren't even close, dude.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Way different.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: The only one that is on here that actually made it to the album was Raven to the Joy. Fantastic.
Yeah. I was thinking I should place a bet right now that at least one stayed the title track.
Yeah. This is.
So when you look at the early configurations, so it had the voice inside melody, Cool. This is the first one.
Rave. God is alive if I had a harem stimulation still would stand all time Elephants and flowers Big house We got the beat or we got the power Sorry, my bad. Nothing can go goes for some reason.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: Oh, so you're going into a whole different group.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: So that was the first configuration in October of 88. In November of 88, he took out a bunch of them because by then it was just Rave. If I had a harem a voice inside melody, cool, stimulation Elephants and flowers God is alive still would stand on all time. But you notice a lot of them ended up in Graffiti bridge.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: So. And then we go to January of 89.
Rave. If I had a Harem Good Judy Girlfriend, which ended up on Carmen's album Pink Cashmere, which ended up way down the road in the hits the Beast Sides, Electric Chair, which is Batman, Am I without you which we are. Because we got nothing.
God is Alive still withstand all time in Moonbeam levels.
So, yeah, the only one that made it to the actual Rave album is Rave.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Well, that's.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: All right, so.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: So you go ahead and I'll try to fill.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Do you feel that that Jill Jones album was done and is in that.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Vault, her second album?
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: You know, there's a part of me that says it is when I. And let me clarify, when I say, yes, I believe it's done.
I don't think that, like, the album is put together and ready to pull out and just say, here, mass produce this and release it.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Right.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: But my guess is that the songs are done. They probably did the songs that they wanted to do.
So my guess is all the songs are done and probably maybe even at different stages. You know, they may not all be fully mastered yet. But my guess is, yes, the album would probably be, if not fully ready, very Close to being ready to go.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: And it would be that easy to just put it all together, do what they need to do, get it out there?
[00:09:52] Speaker B: I think so, yeah. I mean, think about it.
If we can go online and find all this information out, they've got the information.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Now, what stops them from. You know, how the people, the.
What they call them the state now, when they do put, like, big packages of print stuff together now, if they find a bunch of other stuff from other people that he's done with them or for them or whatever, and it's in the vault now, do you. Does the estate have to go and say, hey, Morris, can we, you know, you know, put this in a big permission. Yes.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: No.
Everything in Prince's vault is Prince. He owns it all. But they better pay them. They will have to pay them some sort of royalties.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: For doing it.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: I'm thinking I'd like that idea at least.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: Well, let me take that back. Unless Prince had them sign releases that say, you know, I'm going to pay you one time.
Which he did that a lot in the early days, right? He's like, I'm going to buy this from you, but you don't get the royalties from it. I'm just buying this from you. So I own it.
He was more known for that than saying, okay, I'm going to sign you, and then you'll get royalties as it goes. He was big on I'm going to pay you the one time at least. Everything I've heard, remember, when I talk, it's all just from research that I've done and heard. I don't know for 100%.
Hearsay. Yeah, it's all hearsay.
But I have heard it and read it and numerous times where there is no anything set up for people to receive royalties through the years.
Well, he's dead and the estate should try to do better, so. They should. Yeah, but the state can't get their act together to do anything. Well, I understand that. I just said they should, they should. But, I mean, they're so greedy. That's why they're not. We're not getting anything from them because everyone wants their piece of the pie and they're saying everything, you know.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: I. I'm just thinking it'd be cool to put out a big compilation of, you know, other people and they could, you know, like, I. I know there's got to be more Mad House, bro.
I would.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: Because they're always jamming, dude. Come on.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: Yeah, so that's the thing There's a lot of music in there that is just a bunch of jams.
But I don't know how much of that you got to remember that. There was a lot of times, if you remember, when we're going through all the Madhouse stuff that they recorded songs, and then he's like, oh, well, let's just use that on the next Madhouse album. It's not like he sat down all the time and said, I'm going to record another Madhouse album. He just recorded, right?
[00:13:02] Speaker A: Everything.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: Everything. Everything that came to his mind, he went and recorded. And then he would decide later, hey, I'm gonna put that there. You know, A lot of songs that Eric Leeds used on his Couple of his albums came from stuff that could have easily been on a Madhouse album, but he just gave it to Eric and said, here, do what you want with this.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: You know, so is there another Mad House album or more mad house music? It's only Mad House music because Prince decided he wanted to call it mad house music.
So, yes, I am. I would be willing to bet there's a lot more music out there that would fit the Madhouse blueprint.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: But until he said, we're going to make this madhouse music, you know, does that make sense?
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
How about Maserati?
[00:13:54] Speaker B: So Maserati is a whole different beast right there. Because Prince didn't discover Maserati. Prince had nothing to do with Maserati. Correct. Brown Mark is the one who found Maserati, brought them in, and I'm going to share a story.
Well, we might want to wait till that episode, but anyway, we'll wait and we'll share it later.
But Prince heard them as he was walking past the studio, heard them jamming, and that's what caught his ear.
He gave them a couple songs and then left. He had nothing to do. Brown Mark is the one who sat in the studio with them and produced them and helped write their what music that Prince did not. He only gave him, like, two or three songs, and one, as everyone knows, he took back.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: It'S sad because the one he took back, I'm not going to say the name, I'm sure. And if you're listening to us, you probably know enough about Prince to know when he took that song back and mixed it and redid it and made it his own, he left their backing vocals on it and did not credit him.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: That's horrible.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's what he did.
So is there more Madhouse music? I highly doubt it.
I highly Doubt that anything they did is in the vault, because he was not, like, involved with them. And then their next album, Maserati 2, actually came out on a different label, if I remember right. It came out on Motown.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you're right.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: So it's not like they were signed to Paisley park for more than that one record they just came in, which is sad. And their second album, not even close to as good as their first one. And I. I'm not sure Brown Mark had much to do with that second album. I would have to look that up.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: But, yeah, I think there's more.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: More what? Maserati?
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Yeah, because you just don't go in there and just like, okay, we got 12 songs. That's all we're gonna do, you know, and then just be done.
Well, Brown Mark knows talent, right?
[00:16:14] Speaker B: But chances are, if they did record more, they took it with them.
They're not gonna leave their stuff in his vault.
You know what I mean? Had he worked with them and been producing it, he would have kept all the tapes himself, I'm sure of it.
But they probably paid for, you know, whatever they had to pay for to use the studio. And they were signed. They were on. Their first album was on Paisley Park Records.
But my guess is they. If there was anything that they did not release, they took it with them, is my guess.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: What's funny about that.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: What?
[00:16:52] Speaker A: None of this has anything to do with this unreleased song.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: No.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: But we did make the episode longer.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: We did.
Well, by talking about a bunch of silliness.
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Anyway, I just say if there is more Maserati, and I don't care who has it, if Brown Mark helped them with it.
Release that crap, man. I mean, stuff. I don't mean crap, because, man, I wanted a curse, but I'm trying not to today.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So Aaron doesn't have to leave you.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah, let's work.
So, yeah. Okay. So.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: So, yeah, Anyway.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: But the Jill Jones. Definitely, there could be.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: Oh, I'm 100 sure. There's way more Jill Jones and in there, so.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: So eventually we might get that with Joe Jones.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: I. I'm gonna tell you right now, I have zero hope of ever getting anything from the estate. I mean, the way they screwed up last year with Purple Rain, they've. They. I used to have a lot of confidence. I mean, if you go back and watch and listen to some of our earlier podcasts, you know, from when we first started a couple years ago, I was supportive of the state.
They were doing great things. The box sets we were getting were just amazing.
They even were giving us little bits and pieces like they went back, I don't know if you remember, years and years and years and years ago, back in the early 2000s when he released and I. He technically didn't even release it, but he handed out the Versace Experience to people at the Versace show, and that was all the only way you could get that. The estate took that rarity because that's. I mean, it was hard to find. And if you could find it, it was very expensive.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Didn't they purchase it from somebody because they didn't have it? No, they had it, I swear. No, something. Maybe not that, but there was something somebody had to go buy was a bootleg. They had to buy it, so that way they could.
Anyway, I'm going to have to research that because.
I know maybe not that, but it was something.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: They released it, they remixed it, remastered it and put it on CD and then released it so we could. So they were doing some nice things.
Here's something that a lot of y' all have been looking for and have been paying out the yin yang to get a bootleg copy or something. But here's the official version of the Versace Experience. I'm like, that's great.
They did that for free record day with one of his promo albums that he did.
So I mean, they were doing great things and now I have, like zero confidence in anything they're doing.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, maybe they'll surprise us.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: But you know who I do have confidence in, and that's Castos, because that.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: Was a good segue.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: Did you like that? Yeah, I like that because Kastos doesn't let us down. We are affiliated with Castos for our podcast distribution.
And why?
Because they do it right.
You know, they have fixed pricing, they have unlimited uploads, downloads with all their plans. They. They have data metrics, automated transcriptions. I mean, it puts you on every platform you can think of because it's pretty cool. Like I keep saying, I found us on Spotify.
Yeah.
But we're all over the place. We're like horse manure. We spread it everywhere.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: Horse manure.
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So what do we have today? Producer Aaron, you're gonna say, he's coming your way, so, oh, you're gonna get it this time. What is it?
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Hot ones.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: More hot ones by the Pringles.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: You know how you love them Pringle stuff.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: The last one, they made three different ones.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Stop that.
All right, let's take off my broken glasses.
First we feast.
Presents.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: And then we burn our mouth.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: First we. First we. Feasts. Presents. Hot ones. What sense does that make?
I don't know.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: I don't know, but I feel this coming already.
I will say they each had a different flamer.
But.
But the. The both that we have tried so far, and I'm sure I'm gonna. I'm gonna do something stupid. Like I did every time. I'm gonna. And I remember football. We used to do football.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: What is the flavor?
Barbacoa.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: I didn't say that, did I? And you were telling me Los Calientes. I was spaced.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: What's Los Calientes mean?
[00:22:26] Speaker A: Something very hot.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: Yeah, very hot.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, sure.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Barbacoa.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Caliente.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Caliente.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: So do you know why I always smell first before I take any?
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Because you haven't showered yet.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that too. Because that way I know how many I should take.
If it tastes. It smells gross. I usually don't take a lot.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: It smells hot.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: Yellow.
No, they're not near as hot as the other ones.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: Not at all.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: Tastes like just a hot barbecue.
That's what it tastes like to me.
What? Tastes like a hot barbecue.
That's pretty much what Barbacoa is.
Barbecue.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: I like this.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah, you like that one?
[00:23:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: Yeah. It is not even close to as hot. I mean, it's hot.
Still getting burned in my mouth. But you gotta remember I got a wussy mouth, so.
But it's not as hot as the other ones. Them other ones, man, just.
Holy cow. I was flame throwing, man.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: I'm gonna drop a name. Oh, ready?
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Drop it like it's hot.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Hookah Nakua.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: Yeah, not too hot. Tastes good. Thanks, Castos. Yeah, thanks, Castos.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Hookah Nakua.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Is that contagious? No, no, no.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: It's my little tiny segment thing that I like to do. Names. Oh, yeah.
He's a wide receiver for the Rams.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: Okay, well, thank you for sharing.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: It's a fun name to say.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Still doing it, huh? Yeah, he is.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: I'm all by myself on it, so it's okay.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: All right.
So when. When you do this, you really are without me, right?
Is that what you're saying?
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Good. Yeah.
Well, that's all I have, so. I have no notes. I just said don't have.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: That's your notes?
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:05] Speaker B: Don't have.
Well, here's the odd thing again.
If this was out there and they know it was. I mean, it's pretty. Pretty much known with. Again, with all the.
Everything out there, the bootlegs, the. You know, you can. You can find a lot of stuff on YouTube and just everywhere, you know, demos. And I couldn't find this, man. I went on a massive hunt, and you would think, because this ain't one of them. Oh, it's rumored to exist.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: It's there.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: It's there. They know.
So that's the odd thing is that I couldn't find anything about it.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: Was it just so horrible that people were like, man, we ain't taking that crap.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: No, I can't. If it's that. I've heard some bad Prince bootlegs and so, yeah, well, anyway, we're without it, but you are not without us, because you can hit us up anytime you want at Alpha Suite. Podcast at Gmail.
We'd love to hear from you.
And we can talk about Puka Nakua or Puka Nakua.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: See, isn't that a fun name? Come on.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Whatever you want to talk about. Tell us how we're doing. Give us ideas for. For stuff you want to see.
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So new season of Silliness is coming out, so, yeah, so check us out there, too. And it's free.
Yeah.
[00:26:44] Speaker A: Speaking of Silliness, this bottle of Silliness, every time I take a drink, it.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Just sounds like a you problem.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: Hey. Hey.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: All right, so I think that's all we got for now. So until next time. Peace.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Peace.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Bye.
