[00:00:00] Speaker A: It is now disclaimer time.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: We are here to share Prince's works with the utmost authenticity, clarity, and precision. This means there may be situations where the material being discussed may be sensitive or offensive to some. However, we have chosen to discuss his work as it was initially produced. We will not alter any of his original work to suit anyone's comfort, including our own. This podcast is to celebrate Prince and his works.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: Thank you for your support and understanding. Now onto the show.
[00:00:35] Speaker D: Hello. Welcome to Alphabet Suite podcast for the Prince songbook. There are hundreds of songs to choose from. You have chosen.
[00:00:47] Speaker E: Let's do this.
I feel like every time I hear that, I should be telling a story to kids in, like, grade school, like I'm reading a book.
You know what I mean? It's hard for me not to. Hello, boys and girls.
So anyway, hello, boys and girls.
Welcome back to the Alphabet Suite podcast.
I am your host, Pat.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: I am your host, Timothy.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: He messed it up. I'm producer Aaron.
[00:01:23] Speaker E: Rock on.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: Rock on.
[00:01:24] Speaker E: Messed up. What?
[00:01:27] Speaker C: He said host. He's the co host this time.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Oh, sh.
[00:01:30] Speaker E: He always says he. He's got a big head. He doesn't co host anything. He's always the host.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: I always say co host, though.
[00:01:38] Speaker E: No, you don't.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: I missed it this time. There's only one episode of it. Look at me, man. I am.
[00:01:43] Speaker E: Look at.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: Is that on us? Cause it looks like it's flopped up. I don't know.
[00:01:50] Speaker E: Okay. All right. So in this. You know, it's funny. Cause I was just saying, I feel like I should be reading a book at school and we're gonna talk about the song after high school.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that was pretty good.
[00:02:04] Speaker E: It was kinda. Kinda fitting.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Hell, yeah.
[00:02:08] Speaker E: So after high school is on the times first album.
And even though. Here's the thing. Even though they credit the time for playing the instruments on this song, it was all Prince and Morris.
I see that on the first. In fact, if I remember, I on their, the times first two albums, it was all Prince and Morris. When they did this album, Prince and Morris had it recorded. They didn't even have a band name. It was just them two recording. And then they had to get a band name and put a band together because the album was done.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: Hmm.
[00:02:59] Speaker E: So that's the story I heard.
But if I'm wrong, people let me know. I'm sure, you know, they will.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: You do also know that Des Dickerson is the one that wrote this?
[00:03:14] Speaker E: Yes, I do.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: But of course, he was uncredited. I don't know why.
[00:03:20] Speaker E: Because when and if I remember because I remember this. This story. I was watching an interview or reading an interview, I can't remember with Des.
And what Prince would do, especially back then, is if someone wrote a song like. Like this, he would offer. He's like, okay, I can pay you $250 for the song, or I can make you famous.
And if I remember this was one of them because he did it with Des. I think he did it with Andre.
Andre Simone.
They would write a song and he would. Instead of paying them for the song or anything or giving him credit, he would just take the song. And then he made Des famous for a little bit, you know, brought him up and had them in the band. So that's what he would do to pay them for the song, right, wrong or otherwise. I don't really know if I agree with that method. And, you know, Prince was Prince and did some shady things, and so. But, you know, when you want to be famous and.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: I don't know, I think that's kind of cool. I mean, because.
[00:04:39] Speaker E: But you should still, in my opinion. Okay, so I'm not gonna pay you for the song.
To pay you for the song. I'm gonna put you in my band and make you famous. You should still give them songwriting credit.
You know, that's the way I feel.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Well, okay, so you would. You're pretty ticked, like, and feeling like, that ain't right. Like, even with, like, Michael Jackson, cuz we all know he didn't write his stuff.
[00:05:08] Speaker E: I think that way with anyone. If you write music, you should always get your credit, whether. Whether you get paid for it or not, you work out a deal for the payment, that's fine, you know, but you should always get the credit for it, if that makes sense. It should have said, written by Des Dickerson.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: Mmm.
[00:05:31] Speaker E: You know, okay.
Just like, you know, they give them credit for, you know, playing the instruments, but they. They had nothing to do with recording this on now. They played it in concert. You know, they were the band in concert. But I don't know. I. Prince, to me, did a lot of shady things because he just wanted to. He was a control freak, and this is just another example of how he liked to have his fingers wrapped around everything and not give anyone control of stuff. You know what I mean?
[00:06:08] Speaker A: They, um.
[00:06:11] Speaker E: Okay, I'm going to say right now, having these computers in here, I said in a previous episode I thought was great.
You just sit and surf the computer now instead of participating in the podcast.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: And it's funny because I'm not even surfing about what we're doing.
[00:06:30] Speaker E: I'm sorry.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Because you said Audrey Simone, and that made me think, didn't he just have a song he released? Yes, but it's not on wiki. Well, nobody put it on there yet, so.
[00:06:41] Speaker E: Anyway, this could be bad. We may have to take away your computer rights already.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Oh, man. All right.
[00:06:48] Speaker E: You squirrel way too much.
I feel like I'm. I should be, like in Star wars. Stay on target.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:07:02] Speaker E: Do you even know what song we're talking about?
Don't look at the computer.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: After high school. I can't remember the name, but there it is. After high school.
[00:07:12] Speaker E: Okay, so now that I've talked for the whole episode, I like the song. Would you like to input?
[00:07:19] Speaker A: I like the song, you know, eighties. You know, I like music back from back then, and it sounds really good. It's.
[00:07:27] Speaker E: It was very early eighties. It was 81.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So.
[00:07:37] Speaker E: You'Re looking at the computer like you want to go surfing again?
[00:07:40] Speaker A: No, there was something on here that I wanted to.
I was going to say, as you were, you know, blabbing. I mean, talking, and, um. Yeah, I don't know what it was.
[00:07:50] Speaker E: No, I'm sure it was something that had absolutely nothing to do.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: No, it actually did, because I seen it on its page. I seen it on its page. The page.
[00:08:03] Speaker E: On the page.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:07] Speaker E: So there's only two versions to this. They have the album version and an edited version that he released on the single.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they don't. They don't actually know the recording dates for the song.
[00:08:18] Speaker E: No.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: But they think it took place, you know, April 81. You didn't cover that, did you?
[00:08:24] Speaker E: If you were paying attention to me instead of surfing the web, you'd know at Prince's.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: What's that?
[00:08:32] Speaker E: Kiawa trail.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Thank you. Studio. I've never heard of it called that.
You've heard that.
[00:08:40] Speaker E: That's where he recorded a lot of his early stuff before he built Paisley park.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: And that was where it was.
[00:08:46] Speaker E: That was the house in the street of the house, you know.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Oh, wow. I've never seen that. I've always.
[00:08:51] Speaker E: A home studio.
I've always seen the in Chan Hassan.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I've always seen that. You know, this is what I thought. You keep cutting me off, man.
What else do want me to do? Just see her.
[00:09:04] Speaker E: Just sit there and look pretty. That's all you got to do.
So, yeah, I enjoyed the song, and what's really surprising is it was, to me, it was one of the better songs on their first album.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:09:18] Speaker E: So I would have thought that there would have been like covers and samples, and I found none.
Absolutely none. I could find no one who covered it. I found no one who sampled it. And it's got a cool be in the cool riff, you know? So you would have thought someone at some point in time would have said, hey, I can do something with this, but I found nothing.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: Well, did you?
And don't play that crap. Did you?
[00:09:52] Speaker E: Did I don't play that crap. Yeah.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: Did you see that? It also says that Des Dickerson released his own version.
[00:10:01] Speaker E: I did not see that. Where'd you see that at?
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Way down at the bottom of the trivia.
[00:10:05] Speaker E: Oh, oh, you know what? I didn't, I didn't see that. But I know he did that because I have that, the retrospective cd. I have that. Okay, so that's cool, though. It is cool that when. If anyone else has that, that is a cool thing to have Des Dickerson. The amount of music this guy wrote and recorded that you just don't know about, it's. It's crazy.
It was really, I want to say there was like 30 songs on it.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: Hmm. That's a lot.
[00:10:37] Speaker E: You got like the full version to modern air and. Yeah, it was really cool.
That was when. So I know. I'm not gonna say I know, I'm pretty sure I spoke about this before, but that, when I got that, that was when I was like in contact with Des himself. I was talking to him and I got the, the set from him directly.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: So that's very cool, man.
[00:11:04] Speaker E: Yeah, I was talking to him for a few months and just chit chatting and I wish I would have kept like all the. Cuz it's through email and you didn't keep that? Well, dude, this was like back in the nineties and AOL was just out. So I mean, with, other than printing all the emails, it's not like today where you can, you know, tap on a smartphone screen and have everything right there. This was back, I was sitting at this big, clunky, you know, desktop computer, you know, like a, I think it was like an IBM 386, you know, and it was AOL. So you're emailing through AOL, which, you know, again, back in the mid nineties was very slow and, you know, it was all dial up and there was it just the options back then were to print. And if I was. Anything you printed was expensive because printer ink, even nowadays printer ink is just horribly expensive. But back then, you only printed if you had to print, you know, and it's not like, oh, I'll just save the file, and I. It was completely different back then, so. But it would have been cool if I had all them emails I had sent back and forth with him talking about this back then. Cause, you know, I could share that and read it. That would have been cool.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:23] Speaker E: But I don't.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: You know what I know.
[00:12:26] Speaker E: What do you know?
[00:12:27] Speaker C: There's this cool thing I like to do after high school, which is snack time.
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[00:14:21] Speaker E: Castos. Yeah, you couldn't remember it forever, right?
[00:14:24] Speaker A: You like it now, you know, Wiki.
[00:14:29] Speaker E: What do we got?
Uh oh. Look at that. Look on his face, man.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.
[00:14:37] Speaker E: What are we doing?
What do we got?
Okay.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Rap snacks again.
[00:14:46] Speaker E: I can't hear you.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: Are you deaf? Rap snacks again.
[00:14:51] Speaker E: Rap snacks again. How many of these wrappers?
[00:14:54] Speaker A: It's funny because I just said Master P. Master.
[00:14:59] Speaker E: Master Pde.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: Barbecue. Barbecue. In bar.
[00:15:05] Speaker E: Barbecue.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Barbecue. And with my honey.
[00:15:11] Speaker E: I just found out. Bruh barbecuing with my honey.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: That's freaking barbecue.
[00:15:22] Speaker E: Barbecue. Barbecue and barbecue and barbecue. And with my honeydeh.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: These are cheese puffs.
[00:15:30] Speaker E: Are they?
[00:15:30] Speaker A: Yeah, barbecue. And so I'm assuming it's barbecue and honey and honey on cheese puffs.
[00:15:37] Speaker E: Oh, this is gonna be horrible.
[00:15:38] Speaker C: Sounds great.
[00:15:40] Speaker E: Does it?
Oh, boy.
Pop that bad boy open.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Look above my finger.
[00:15:50] Speaker E: Look above your finger.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Right in here somewhere.
[00:15:55] Speaker E: I can't.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Oh, my lord.
[00:15:59] Speaker E: Oh, the date. Yeah, they've been sitting for a little bit.
Master Pete.
Cheese puffs.
[00:16:09] Speaker C: I know that they taste bad. They taste fine. Yeah.
[00:16:15] Speaker E: They look good.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: But do they smell good?
[00:16:21] Speaker E: They didn't smell bad.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Don't let me down, Master P.
I like Master P, though. I like his music.
[00:16:33] Speaker C: You like Master P?
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:36] Speaker E: Oh, horrible.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: Oh, are they stale?
[00:16:41] Speaker E: They are a little stale to begin with.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: So I had these when they were fresh.
[00:16:48] Speaker E: They're not that stale, really. They're kind of stale.
Oh, those are bad.
So even fresh, they're kind of stale. A little bit.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: I'm not gonna have another one of those.
[00:17:08] Speaker E: No, that one's enough.
Why do you always grab, like, a handful of these, man?
[00:17:19] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:17:21] Speaker E: Oh, those are bad.
So we have not had, at least in my opinion, we have not had a good wrap snack at all yet.
All I really tasted was the honey.
I taste honey barbecue. But that should not exist on a cheese puff.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: Those jalapeno ones I like to get.
[00:17:47] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: Like zaps or something.
Random convenience machine brand that I found.
[00:17:57] Speaker E: Cheese puffs. Yeah.
Yeah. I was not a fan of that one. So we can let the. Are you really gonna do that?
Because you're gonna try to just.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Is there. Okay. Cause I know myself. We'll be doing our this, and then I'll reach over and grab one, and I'll be like, oh, here.
[00:18:21] Speaker E: I'll try to knock them out.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: You try to eat it.
[00:18:23] Speaker E: I'll try to eat it.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: You know, when I first bit into it, it reminded me of one of the wafer cookies, like the sugar wafers with the vanilla, chocolate or strawberries.
[00:18:34] Speaker C: Might have to give those around two.
[00:18:35] Speaker E: With a fresh bag, but I don't think so.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: This is horrible.
[00:18:40] Speaker E: I don't know if I can do it. Round two with these.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:18:43] Speaker E: Yeah, hand them to me. I don't know if you were gonna.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Eat them.
[00:18:49] Speaker E: But you said they fresh.
Even fresh, they weren't that good.
[00:18:55] Speaker C: I mean, there was a lot better than what we just had. But it wasn't like if Cheetos made a barbecue honey barbecue puff.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: You got another one. Just lick the seasoning.
[00:19:10] Speaker E: Still not good. It tastes like farts.
I've never tasted a fart.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: Looks like you ain't doing something right, then.
[00:19:19] Speaker E: I've not licked enough butts to taste a fart.
[00:19:26] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:19:27] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. No, no.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: I am not a fan, though, so.
[00:19:31] Speaker E: Yeah, this is a good song. I really like. I really like the time, though.
The time was just a badass band, you know?
[00:19:39] Speaker A: I enjoyed the time.
[00:19:40] Speaker E: Yes. So after high school, I still listen to the time.
All right, so I guess that's all we got for this episode. So until next time, peace.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: Peace.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: No, it's not.
[00:19:55] Speaker E: Uh oh. What do we got? You don't need to call it the action.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Oh, let me tell you something. What if they want to reach us?
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[00:20:31] Speaker A: Because if you do it the other way, it won't go. Yeah, don't. Don't go on X.
Yeah.
[00:20:39] Speaker E: So we're just gonna stay on Facebook.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Musk, what are you doing, bro?
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Now we are done. Are we done?
[00:20:52] Speaker C: Producer Aaron patreon.com Alphabet Sweet podcast for behind the scenes.
[00:20:58] Speaker E: Extra stuff. Extra stuff.
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[00:21:07] Speaker E: Cool.
Until next time. Peace.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Bye.
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