2gether

[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to Alphabet Suite, podcast for the Prince Songbook. There are hundreds of songs to choose from. You have chosen together. [00:00:11] Speaker B: All right? Welcome to who? [00:00:13] Speaker C: Producers? He's. He's eyeballing you big time. [00:00:18] Speaker B: He is back to looking so serious. [00:00:19] Speaker C: Like when we first started. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Crap. [00:00:22] Speaker C: Okay, bring them off. Bring us in. [00:00:25] Speaker B: Right. Welcome back. Welcome back. This is Alphabet. [00:00:35] Speaker C: Not Alphabet soup. You can keep it going, man. There ain't no cut. [00:00:41] Speaker B: Alphabet. Sweet. I apologize. I am Tim. [00:00:46] Speaker C: I'm Pat. This is producer Aaron. He's got that lug, doesn't he? [00:01:01] Speaker D: So I turned myself really low. [00:01:03] Speaker C: What do you mean, for one? [00:01:06] Speaker B: For one, man. [00:01:08] Speaker C: We're in the twos already, so you're Mike for the rest. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah, together. [00:01:13] Speaker C: Hey, good play. [00:01:15] Speaker B: I know. [00:01:16] Speaker C: Speaking of together, that's this episode. [00:01:20] Speaker B: It is together and crap. [00:01:23] Speaker C: You know what's great about this song? [00:01:25] Speaker B: No. [00:01:26] Speaker C: The cool thing about this song Is it features Tim's favorite singer of all Time. [00:01:32] Speaker B: Can't get rid of this guy, man. [00:01:35] Speaker C: Favorite singer. Tony Mosley. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Oh, is that his last name? I've been looking for him. [00:01:43] Speaker C: No, I'm sure he's looking for. Oh, he's getting the adjustment. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Into my mouth. [00:01:53] Speaker C: Put it in your mouth. You saw Wanda with Wall Street. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Good. Right there. Thank you, sir. [00:01:59] Speaker C: Producers. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker C: So technically, so demanding. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Okay, so, yeah, no, I did not like this song at all. Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. [00:02:13] Speaker C: No, it's not. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Why would they spell it three different ways? [00:02:15] Speaker C: So you know who you're talking to. So if I said, hey, Tony, Tony wouldn't go? What? If I said, hey, Tony, you wouldn't go? [00:02:24] Speaker B: What? [00:02:24] Speaker C: You know what I mean. Not at hell, anyway. We're not talking about Tony, Tony, Tony. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Then stop. We're talking about. [00:02:32] Speaker C: We're talking about Prince. Prince. Prince. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Together is. No, the meaning is. It's a really great meaning. I enjoy what the meaning stands for, okay? And I get that. And I love that. [00:02:44] Speaker C: Did you like the music? [00:02:45] Speaker B: I love the music. The music was great, okay. And then it got ruined. It got ruined because Tony came on there and just. [00:02:52] Speaker C: Which Tony? [00:02:53] Speaker B: Tony. I don't know. Tony with the know. I just can't get past his voice. But the music, greAt. The meaning was, get on there and do that, man. What's your thoughts? [00:03:18] Speaker C: I don't know. It's a good song. I like the song. And like you said, the meaning is great. The meaning is really great. I really love the meaning. I like Tony's voice. However, I will say this. I thought with this being a slower song, I think for me, his style and his flow is better suited to faster rapping. I think this song would have. And I could be wrong. I'm not a musician by any stretch of imagination. That's my producer. But I don't think he knows this song. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Oh, you don't know the song? [00:04:02] Speaker D: I know it by name. [00:04:03] Speaker C: I don't know the song. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Are you poking things with your toe there to get you to. Can't you just be on with us, man? [00:04:11] Speaker D: There's extra noises back here. [00:04:12] Speaker C: Be together. Yes, be together. But to me, this song would have flowed better and felt better if it was more sung instead of rapped. Does that make sense? Yes. It just didn't seem. His voice is well suited, in my opinion, to the faster rapping, flowing, quicker to slow it down as much as they did for the rapping on this. The song, just, to me, felt like it should have been sung instead of rapped. I still like his voice. [00:04:48] Speaker B: It bring me like a prince singing like, money don't matter tonight. [00:04:53] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Like the way he flows with that song. Right? Man, I love that song. [00:04:58] Speaker C: And that's kind of how this should have flowed. [00:05:00] Speaker B: I see what you're saying. [00:05:02] Speaker C: He rapped it, and to me, it just didn't. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Well, once a rapper, always a rapper. [00:05:09] Speaker C: Wow. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I went there. [00:05:15] Speaker C: He went there. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Okay, Tony. Well, I mean, Tony, he gonna get me. [00:05:26] Speaker C: He's gonna get you big. You know, I will say that I like the song. I like Tony's voice. I just think. And all the different versions, this song. So when it was released, it was the first album that the NPG did on their own, which is weird, which never made sense to me because it was Prince. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Right? [00:05:50] Speaker C: I mean, granted, he didn't do all the singing, but I think he wrote the vast majority of music. He played most of the music. It was on his label. He was on the album. But I never understood his whole trying to put music out there without his name on it. He wanted to do it with the Black Album. He did it with know two times. He had two madhouse albums. He wanted to do it with the Camille album and call it Camille. He always was trying to put stuff out that wasn't know, but it was, you know, he did it with his writing. He was known as, you know, he did it with Jimmy Starr and Alexander, nevermind. And he always was trying to put stuff out that he didn't want credit for. [00:06:38] Speaker B: And beyond music, too. I mean, he would buy houses and he would give houses to people. I read the article right after he passed away. Somebody needed a new roof. They couldn't afford it. It was an elderly person or something, and he paid for the roof. And the guy didn't know, hey, Prince fixed my roof. [00:06:58] Speaker C: I understand. Well, Prince didn't fix it. I don't picture well, you know. [00:07:01] Speaker B: Well, hammer and nails going. [00:07:05] Speaker C: Baby. No, that's. I get that. Because a lot of people, even when I help somebody, and don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but you don't always want to be known for your good deeds. You just want to get it done and do it and move on. And I get that part. But when you're trying to release music and you're like, I don't want anyone to know it's me. Why? [00:07:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:07:28] Speaker D: Not that I'm here to psychoanalyze a dead man, but maybe he had some impostor syndrome issues. [00:07:38] Speaker C: Some impostor syndrome? Yeah, it's funny you bring that up, because I recall numerous stories now, again, even before the Internet, but that doesn't mean the media is still the media, where he would say, like, camille was an alter ego. Even in the seven video, he killed off seven alter egos of himself. [00:08:02] Speaker D: Well, that's not necessarily imposter syndrome. Impostor syndrome is where you're famous, but you don't feel like you should be. [00:08:12] Speaker C: Oh, like you feel you're fake. Yeah. [00:08:15] Speaker D: It could be that. To try to cover that up or going even deeper into psychoanalysis, maybe he had MPD. [00:08:25] Speaker C: I think it would probably be more than that, because, like I said, he would actually alter his. Also, he would alter his voice on different things and say it was a different person, a different personality. Because even with. When he did the Batman soundtrack, he had a character that he called Gemini, remember? [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yep. [00:08:49] Speaker C: So I don't. Maybe it was. Maybe it know, multiple personalities, and maybe he felt like they needed to have their own voice or their own. [00:09:01] Speaker D: From what I'm aware of, most of them do. [00:09:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Or maybe he was just a little strange dude. [00:09:07] Speaker C: Well, we know he was strange. [00:09:10] Speaker B: I still miss him, though. [00:09:11] Speaker D: The world's greatest showman. [00:09:14] Speaker C: He was amazing. [00:09:15] Speaker D: When you have 17 different people in your head. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I like how you say 17. Yeah. It was really weird. So he gave them their own album. I think this might have been, like, the only release they had off that album was together. And he also put it on the. He did a compilation album of songs from his label, the 1800 New Funk. Remember that? And so it was on there, and they released this song on a single, and it had. Let's see, there's how many? 1234-5678 different mixes of this song and a video that was unreleased. However, I've seen it because I forget what it was on. And someone recorded it, so I don't know how it could be unreleased. It's not like someone snuck this out of Paisley park and did it. Actually. You know how back in the day MTV would say Prince and the Revolution, Purple Rain and give me the whole thing in the corner? This had all that in the corner. So it was legitimately recorded somewhere. And I've seen the video for it. But yeah, it had a lot of different remixes. [00:10:39] Speaker B: To me, it all sounded the same. [00:10:42] Speaker C: I thought there was a few different. [00:10:44] Speaker B: You thought so? [00:10:46] Speaker C: There's basically, if I remember correctly, I haven't listened to it lately, but there's like three. Again, my memory is slipping. But there's three different kind of songs that he took and made a couple different mixes of each of them, three different tempos. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Know, to me it's all the same because Tony, look, let me do this real quick. I'm going to break it down a little bit. Tony. Yo, you heard what we said. If you could remake this song just for us and not rap it. [00:11:24] Speaker C: Sing it. [00:11:25] Speaker B: Just sing it. I got you, man. I will love your voice. [00:11:29] Speaker C: How's it any different? His voice is his voice, whether he's rapping or singing. [00:11:36] Speaker B: But maybe it sounds better if he's not mean. Like, I don't know. I mean, if Kurt Cobain rapped, I'd be like, what are you know? [00:11:45] Speaker C: How do you know? Did you ever hear Kurt Cobain Rap? [00:11:47] Speaker B: No. [00:11:47] Speaker C: So you don't know what it would have been like? [00:11:49] Speaker B: Just like, I never. [00:11:50] Speaker C: A lot of assumptions. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Look, you ever heard Kenny Rogers rap? [00:11:57] Speaker C: I can honestly say I have never heard Kenny Rogers rap. [00:12:03] Speaker B: I have nothing more to say about us being together. [00:12:09] Speaker C: I don't think we are together. [00:12:12] Speaker B: Not on these songs here, man. [00:12:15] Speaker D: He could maybe be another T pain example. [00:12:19] Speaker C: Oh, dude, that guy. No, you say, oh, I watched him on the masked singer. He won it, like the first season, right? [00:12:27] Speaker D: I don't know if it was the first one, but it was early. [00:12:30] Speaker C: I did not know. So I'm listening. I love the mass singer, by the way. [00:12:36] Speaker B: Very good. [00:12:38] Speaker C: So we watch it as a family and play along and try to guess who's who. [00:12:42] Speaker D: Last two seasons have been trash for that. [00:12:45] Speaker C: Yeah, well, they've changed it way too much. But t pain, I'm, like, listening to this guy sing and I'm like, this guy could sing. It was crazy because he auto tuned so much. [00:13:00] Speaker D: Well, that's what he's known for, is Auto tune. [00:13:02] Speaker C: Yeah. So I never would have guessed Aaron had to say, here, listen to it right away. Yeah, Aaron guessed him. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:12] Speaker C: But I'm like, that doesn't sound like t pain. The guy can, man. [00:13:17] Speaker D: So I'm not a huge t pain fan in terms of his music, but he's a car guy, so that's how. [00:13:22] Speaker C: I know that trumps everything. [00:13:25] Speaker B: There you go. [00:13:26] Speaker C: He likes cars. That's my boy. [00:13:29] Speaker B: He likes cars. [00:13:33] Speaker C: So anyway, actually, I think this is the first legitimate release single that. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Stop right there. [00:13:42] Speaker C: Stop right there. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Why do I not see TC up on here? [00:13:47] Speaker C: Because he wasn't in there. Why does it matter? Because Tony's. [00:13:56] Speaker B: You know. So Tony came first. [00:14:00] Speaker C: Let me break this down for you, okay? TC came first. [00:14:04] Speaker B: Oh, so you're saying that Tony kicked TC's ass and then off TC went? [00:14:08] Speaker C: I'm saying I got to look out. [00:14:10] Speaker B: Now. [00:14:14] Speaker C: It'S just a split personality. And I like TC. I like TC. TC got his own album. Tony never got his own album. Sorry, Tony. No slight to you at all, man. Like I said, I'm on your side, bro. However, TC kind of got pushed aside for Tony and them to come in. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that sucked, man. [00:14:44] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Tony kind of replaced. Hi, I'm Tony. I'm TC. [00:14:51] Speaker D: So much. Let's listen to their music. [00:14:55] Speaker C: We will be, because TC, once we get there, we go. We're going to get close because Bambi. Bambi is. Yeah, can't wait for that. [00:15:05] Speaker B: I love Bambi. Anyway. That is done. [00:15:08] Speaker C: I just love that song. [00:15:09] Speaker B: No, not at all. He sings I'm going to find him. I know. Thou cried, man, that was so sad. And Dumbo. [00:15:20] Speaker C: Did you just win the big air in a dumbo? [00:15:22] Speaker B: I did. [00:15:23] Speaker C: No, I know that was sad in Dumbo. To be in Dumbo. Dumbo. [00:15:33] Speaker D: In line with that, though. This entire time you've been talking about Tony, my brain just went to Tony Iommi. [00:15:39] Speaker C: I could not make an actual connection I could think of. There's not a connection between Tony Iommi and Prince that I am aware of. [00:15:50] Speaker D: That probably would have been a pretty. [00:15:52] Speaker C: Great album that would have been kicking. That would have been a couple of big Eagles going at it, though only for ten songs. Then they go their separate ways. [00:16:04] Speaker B: What are you looking at as I'm looking at the. [00:16:06] Speaker C: Look at this. Kirk Johnson. He was with Prince till the day he was. We talked about people he trusted. That was probably one he trusted. He was like his businessman. I mean, he ran a lot of stuff for Prince. At the end, he was getting prescriptions. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:31] Speaker C: I'm not saying I agree with it, and I don't think it's the right thing to do. However, a lot of famous people do that, so that way their medical history ain't out in the public. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Mr. Jackson. [00:16:42] Speaker C: It happens with everybody, man. [00:16:44] Speaker B: I know. That's who comes to my mind. [00:16:46] Speaker C: Yeah. So when did the song come out? 1993, on the gold nigga album. Can I say that? Can I say nigga? [00:16:54] Speaker B: No, you cannot. [00:16:55] Speaker C: Let me ask kids the gold N album. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Let me ask my kids. [00:17:00] Speaker C: Ask your kids that are half mixed. Half mixed. I guess it's better than being half baked. [00:17:06] Speaker B: That was a good show. Half baked. You ever seen it? [00:17:09] Speaker C: I never saw that. [00:17:10] Speaker B: You ever seen it? No. It was a great show. [00:17:13] Speaker C: I think you're fully baked. [00:17:15] Speaker B: No, it had Tony and T Penny up in it. [00:17:19] Speaker C: Tony Iommi, though. [00:17:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't get it mixed up with Tony what's his face, what's his name? Morris. [00:17:27] Speaker C: No, Morris. [00:17:29] Speaker B: What is Tony's last name? Mosley. Mosley, yeah. You knew what I was talking about. Barry Bannerlo. [00:17:40] Speaker C: Not Tony with the I or Tony with the E. Tony with Y. Anyway, I think we're going to end this album. What am I saying? [00:17:51] Speaker B: Album. [00:17:51] Speaker C: We're going to end this album. Gold, nigga. No, Gold End. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Gold End. [00:17:59] Speaker C: I can't say gold. Someone else is half baked. That's what I think. So, yes, that's the producer. Yeah, it is our producer. Step away from the pot. No. Came out in 93 on Golden. Was then on 1800 new funk and had its own single with like a million different remixes. However, again, no samples that I can find. No covers? No. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Well, who the heck would want to? I'm going to leave Tony alone. I just got this thing for him. [00:18:48] Speaker C: You better hope Tony leaves you alone. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, right? He already took out. [00:18:54] Speaker C: Jeez, in his prime. Yeah, you ain't nothing but a bad old white. So, Tony, the only thing going to be together is your teeth down your throat. So anyway, you better call the new kids. Get Marky Mark and his funky butcher. [00:19:17] Speaker B: Hey, don't call him that. We are good. [00:19:21] Speaker C: So I think that's all we got to say on this one. [00:19:25] Speaker B: I like Wahlberg. Who's Mike? [00:19:32] Speaker C: Who's Mike Wahlberg? [00:19:34] Speaker B: Oh, excuse me. Sorry about that. He's old photographer that I used to know, man. [00:19:41] Speaker C: I'm sure. [00:19:41] Speaker D: Yeah, one time member of the Funky Bunch, right. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Boom. Do you know that Mark Wahlberg was supposed to be part of the new kids on the block. He was, but he was. [00:19:53] Speaker C: He didn't want to sing that when he wanted to rap. [00:19:55] Speaker B: No, that wasn't it. Because his mom said he was too young. And then came the little Joey. Which are you going to rip on Joey? Dude, he might as well swing with Tony. I mean, just saying you're going to. [00:20:09] Speaker C: Have like so many people coming to your door. Because I'm restaurant chain. Is that the younger brother, Mike? [00:20:18] Speaker D: Joe? [00:20:20] Speaker C: No, Joey McIntyre is the new kid that took Mark's place. [00:20:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:20:27] Speaker C: No, he's younger than Mike. [00:20:30] Speaker B: They've got a third brother. [00:20:32] Speaker C: Yeah, he owns Wahlberger's. [00:20:34] Speaker B: Is that what I thought they were all kind of together. [00:20:37] Speaker C: I think it's a family restaurant. [00:20:38] Speaker B: But he's a chef. [00:20:39] Speaker C: He's the guy who really kind of brought it all together, isn't he? [00:20:41] Speaker D: I'm aware it was his idea. [00:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:43] Speaker D: You have two famous actor singer brothers. [00:20:46] Speaker C: That just funnel money into you. Yeah. I've actually been to Wahlberger's. [00:20:52] Speaker B: Is it good? [00:20:53] Speaker C: It was a burger place. However, I will say this. My wife has gluten issues, as you know, Melissa, and she said that was the best gluten free bun she's ever had. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Really? [00:21:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Excellent. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Their burger. [00:21:06] Speaker B: And this is where wall burgers. So go to the wall burgers if you've got gluten problems. Right? Yeah. Is that what buns. [00:21:14] Speaker C: Their buns, she said was amazing. [00:21:16] Speaker D: So basically, if you live in the East coast or California. [00:21:19] Speaker C: Well, no, there's a wall burgers in Chicago, I think, in there. No way. I think there is. I'm pretty sure there is. I know where we're going. Yeah, we went to burgers in, I think there. I do believe there's one in the Chicagoland area. We'll have to look. Anyway, back on topic. We're going to cut this episode now and we will be back with some more at another time. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:49] Speaker C: So until then, peace. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Peace. We don't get a piece from you. Something. [00:22:10] Speaker C: About to get a piece from Tony. [00:22:13] Speaker B: I'm out of here. [00:22:14] Speaker C: Tony's going to get a piece of you, that's for sure. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Hey, we trying to say Tony, go come for you, too now, brother. [00:22:21] Speaker C: All right.